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December 17, 2007

Mindless Thinking – Is This Man Qualified to Tell You What to Eat?

Filed under: diet, health, nutrition — by psipsina @ 9:00 am

(Note:  When I finished writing my review of Mindless Eating, it came out to nearly 2,000 words, too long for a blog entry even by my verbose standards.  So I am breaking my review up into installments.) 

Several weeks ago, a lot of the mainstream nutrition blogs were practically wetting themselves with joy about the appointment of Brian Wansink to head the USDA Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion, the division of the USDA that interferes in the diets of Americans advises Americans on what to eat.  At last, sighed the nutrition writers, we’ll see sensible nutrition policy coming from the USDA.

I’m all for sensible nutrition policy, although I often disagree with the mainstream about what that means.  I had never heard of Wansink, though, so I put in a library request for his popular book, Mindless Eating.  Like me, you may not know Wansink by name, but you have probably heard of his research.  He’s the guy who discovered that people eat more if food is served on bigger plates.

Having now read the book, I must say that what Brian Wansink doesn’t know about nutrition is even more interesting than what he knows.  The man has a PhD from Stanford, and I simply couldn’t understand how he could propagate the glaring misconceptions that occur throughout Mindless Eating.

Let’s start with the most obvious one:

But in 1968, grain prices were low.  When I innocently asked Uncle Lester why we weren’t seeing a movie that year, he summarized the state of agricultural economics in seven words, “We would if people ate more corn.”  To an 8-year-old, this pretty much translated into “If I ever hope to see a movie again, I’d better think of a way to get people to eat more vegetables.”  (Mindless Eating, p. 3)

Corn, of course, is not a vegetable.  It’s a grain, and poor in nutrition even as grains go.  (Think pellagra.)  I can forgive Wansink’s 8-year-old self for thinking corn was a vegetable – in the 60s virtually every parent in America fed corn and peas to their kids and called them vegetables.  Heck, many parents still do this.  But grownup Wansink, with his PhD, should know better, and it is his responsibility to spread knowledge, not misconceptions.

Another thing that Wansink doesn’t seem to know is the role of insulin in the regulation of hunger (more on that in a minute).   Discussing the surge in popularity of the Atkins diet a few years ago, he says:

The Atkins Diet worked initially because it made eating a mindless activity.  There were bad guys (carbohydrates) and good guys (meat and vegetables), and very little variety.

The good news:  the Atkins Diet worked.  The bad news:  It was boring to eat just meat and vegetables.  (Mindless Eating, p. 70)

Does Dr. Wansink not know that Atkins works by directly regulating the production of insulin?  How could a guy with a PhD be unaware that insulin is secreted in response to carbohydrate consumption, and that it causes the storage of both serum glucose and serum fat in the adipose (fat) tissue?  And how could a nutrition expert not know that the allowable foods on a low-carbohydrate regimen are legion?  You can eat eggs, bacon, beef, lamb, pork chops, sausage, ham, fish, chicken, duck, turkey, fresh cream, sour cream, literally thousands of different kinds of cheeses, lettuce, spinach, watercress, arugula, mizuna, dandelion greens, mushrooms, green beans, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, collards, turnip greens, radishes, zucchini, summer squash, winter squash, pumpkin, red peppers, green peppers, yellow peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, turnips, carrots, peanuts, walnuts, almonds, cashews, macadamia nuts, sesame seeds, poppy seeds, sunflower seeds, flax seeds, pistachios, pumpkin seeds, fish roe, anchovies, olives, avocados, full fat yogurt, smoked salmon, oysters, lobster, mussels, scallops, clams, crab, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, canteloupe, honeydew, crenshaw melons, casaba melons, small quantities of apples, pears, oranges, grapefruit, bananas, peaches, nectarines, and plums, chicken livers, calves’ liver, olive oil, peanut oil, butter, coconut oil, 85% dark chocolate, coconut milk, lemons, limes, chile peppers, garlic, onions, and every herb and spice imaginable.  (In the last three months, I’ve probably eaten all of these, except bananas, which I don’t like, and liver, which I didn’t like as a kid and have not tried since.)

I have never, ever been bored by a low-carb diet.  And as for Wansink’s implicit claim that carbohydrates add variety to our diet, anyone who is truthful has to admit that it is the high-carb snack foods that are boring.  One of my favorite posts at Mark’s Daily Apple, says it best:  “But even being so careful about what goes on my plate, I’d say honestly I get a lot more flavor and variety than some people I know who insist on a steady diet of burgers, beers and pizzas. The truth is, “fun” foods like nachos, pizza and tacos all taste the same: the texture is usually a mix of creamy or crunchy, there’s a lot of salt, some meat-type seasoning, and sugar. Eat that stuff and you’re starving the next hour…. But honestly, I never am deprived, hungry or suffer from any cravings. Actually, I refuse to eat something that isn’t delicious, period. To me, the relentlessly boring, salty, familiar flavor of most processed foods is not delicious. The fact that they’re also totally unhealthy is almost a side issue.”

Amen, Mark.

Yes, the diet’s simplicity makes it easy to understand – no grains, no potatoes or other starchy vegetables, no caloric sweeteners, no liquid milk – but the ease of understanding the diet is a secondary, bonus feature.  One could conceive of an even simpler diet – eat 1000 calories worth of pure sugar a day, for example – that would fail because it doesn’t address how fat is stored by the body.

So there I was, reading, and scratching my head over how one could obtain PhD in nutrition from an illustrious university like Stanford and know less about how insulin works that little ol’ amateur me.  Then I discovered that Wansink’s PhD was in marketing, specifically a field called Consumer Behavior.  Yes, that’s right – the guy at the USDA that is supposed to be telling Americans what to eat has a PhD in marketing.  But maybe his bachelor’s or master’s degrees are in nutrition?  Nope, his B.A. from Wayne State College is in Business and Technology; and his M.S. from Drake University is, as he says on p. 3 of Mindless Eating, is in communication research.

Yes, boys and girls, it is entirely likely that the man who will be heading the Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion knows less about nutrition than I do.  Or you.  Or your 8-year-old.  Will you take advice from him?

So the mystery of how Wansink could manage to know so little about nutrition is finally cleared up – it’s actually not his area of expertise.  But this raises a new mystery – why are so many nutritionists from Marion Nestle on down so excited by this guy?  Shouldn’t a nutritionist be skeptical that the new nutrition czar at the USDA actually has no special expertise in that field?

Next up:  flaws in Wansink’s research.

13 Comments »

  1. Scary!! Also scary….a Pediatrician I work with once admonished me for not eating grains….when I asked him why we needed grains, he responded “I don’t know, but there must be something! We all need grains, everyone knows that!” He looked truly confused when I set him straight! LOL

    I recently read an article written by a physician that essentially said that we don’t know that insulin levels have anything to do with whether we eat carbohydrates or not! (It’s fat, not carb that regulates insulin levels and fat retention according to this guy!)

    As for boredom on a low carb diet? Not if you’re open to trying new foods and recipes!

    Comment by Cindy Moore — December 17, 2007 @ 11:56 am |Reply

  2. Very interesting! But is it okay if I still eat some carbs? not the nacho, pizza kind, the potato, polenta kind.

    Comment by jennifer400 — December 17, 2007 @ 5:58 pm |Reply

  3. I just want to say I am ecstatic to be the link in the “on down” from Marion Nestle. I have all her books and I consider her a role model. I learn more from her about the politics of food and the grocery store experience from her books, Food Politics and What to Eat. Thank you, I am not worthy!

    I have a couple thoughts on your post:

    1 – I am shocked nobody picked up on the vegetables/grain connection. If he did not have a dietitian editor/reviewer hopefull he has learned his lesson.

    2 – Even more shocked to hear him call low-carb boring! That is his opinion. No wonder you had the reaction you did.

    Diets are very personal. If a healthy person is on low carb and has no problems and is happy with it and enjoying their food what is the problem? From a nutrition standpoint, I worry about lack of dietary fiber for digestion. But if all is running smoothly (so to speak) and there are no lab values that raise alarms for any sort of health issue, vitamin or mineral deficiency or malnutrition then I don’t see a problem.

    I have had friends who lost weight on low carb and others who have not. You never know what is going to work for people. I don’t think Wansink should have called it boring. I’m on your side :)

    Please do read my response on your comment on my blog re: Wansink because I do think you should give him another chance. He is bringing knowledge on psychology and behavior that tends to get ignored in the guidelines.

    http://rebeccascritchfield.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/mindless-eating-author-to-take-usda-job/

    Comment by rebeccascritchfield — December 17, 2007 @ 6:58 pm |Reply

  4. My standard response to the boredom canard about Atkins is, if you’re bored on Atkins, you’re doing it wrong.

    In the two years I’ve been doing Atkins I’ve eaten a larger variety of foods than I ever did in the 32 years preceding them. My latest discovery/obsession is fennel. I usually try something new at least once a month.

    And one of the upsides from not having my tastebuds dulled by sugar is that things I never used to like, things like olives and coconut, are now some of my favorite foods.

    Comment by nightwitch — December 17, 2007 @ 8:28 pm |Reply

  5. Great post. So great, I have nothing to add and we know how unusual that is ;-) .

    Comment by Anna — December 17, 2007 @ 10:56 pm |Reply

  6. I just tried the Fage yogurt with berries and flax seed oil. It was great!

    Comment by jennifer400 — December 18, 2007 @ 10:09 am |Reply

  7. Hi, Rebecca,

    Thanks for stopping by. I think my problem with Wansink’s appointment is that psychology can be a supplement to good nutritional advice, but it is not a substitute for it. The one thing he said that rang true is that every one of us makes 200 decisions about what to eat every day. I can identify with that; every day I have to decide not to eat things I know are bad for me. Brownies and bread are still in the stores, and sometimes people make them homemade, which adds an etiquette problem to the mix. I don’t have physical cravings for carbs any more, but I am surrounded by psychological factors. I don’t dispute that.

    But with all the psychological tricks in the world, I’m powerless to make a good decision if no one has given me good information – the situation we’ve faced with the government’s dietary guidelines since at least 1977. Wansink may have nutritionists working for him – I hope it’s true – but how can he say whether a nutrition policy is sound when what he really knows is how to persuade people? It’s his job to tell us WHAT to eat, and I don’t think he’s qualified.

    Hi, Jennifer,

    I’m glad you like the yogurt/flax snack. Yesterday I had flax oil in my berry smoothie (3/4 cup unsweetened frozen mixed berries, a little water, and a tablespoon of flax), and I was surpised at how tasty it was. Only you can say whether potatoes and polenta affect your weight, your blood pressure, your cholesterol levels, and your general health. However, any standard biochemistry textbook will tell you two facts that may give you pause: insulin is the primary fat storage hormone; and carbohydrates cause an increase in insulin production. For a great many of us, though, all carbs (except cellulose) really are alike, so the trick is to eat foods that are low in non-fiber carbohydrate.

    Comment by psipsina — December 20, 2007 @ 1:30 pm |Reply

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  9. Who appointed this guy???

    Wait, let me guess…

    :x

    Comment by Queen B — December 21, 2007 @ 6:06 pm |Reply

  10. Thanks for the blog ping. Saw you on both Rebecca’s blog AND on Mark’s before Shaping Youth, and as a fellow migraine sufferer (periodically only, thank gawd; usually as predictable as a rainstorm on the barometric pressure front) I’m VERY anxious to delve deeper and hear what you have to say in terms of dietary correlation, too.

    I’m one of those hereditary ‘high cholesterol’ people that eats healthy/moderate across the board, so am baffled by my plight and resisting meds just ‘because’…(I’m not wild about meds as a panacea in general, and docs are more than happy to start that domino effect…which could explain why I’ve never had a full physical and avoid them like the plague) ;-)

    Anyway, as a marketer that has been ensconced in the kids’ nutrition/sedentary/mind-body corollary of media influence (what goes into kids’ minds & bodies has had a direct psychological imprint in our media logs/pilot programs) I’ll say I veer into Rebecca’s camp of the ‘wait and see’ variety hoping that perhaps he has a handle on some of the key pop culture influences that are derailing kids from the get go.

    Like? Energy drinks and jolt-b-crash caffeine concoctions marketed to teens…the coolness cache of the Starbucks phenom…the “healthy foods that aren’t” marketing pitch for smoothies, salads, and ‘energy bars’ that pack a power punch of a gazillion grams of sugar yet are marketed as ’sports’ aids, etc.

    In other words, I tend to agree w/Rebecca that he’ll be surrounded by the nutrition gurus he needs, and may bring a fresh approach to unveil some of the market conditions and food supply issues on the vested interest/lobbyist front…One can only hope. (er…like the good ol’ HFCS conundrum)

    My favorite book on this stuff?

    Michele Simon’s “Appetite for Profit” which is written in a fun, humorous tone jam-packed with relevant data and info. (kinda like your own blog, here!)

    Here’s my post w/a link to her book & a bit about “marketing mindfulness” to teach kids media literacy in their nutrition choices via hands-on games: http://www.shapingyouth.org/blog/?p=206

    Thanks again for the insights…I’ll be back!

    Comment by Shaping Youth — January 11, 2008 @ 10:06 pm |Reply

  11. Why do people think you can’t have enough fiber on low-carb? What do they think LCers *eat*? Are vegetables suddenly not carbohydrate foods or something? News to me…

    Comment by Dana — February 13, 2008 @ 11:44 am |Reply

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    Comment by benefits of garlic — April 9, 2008 @ 2:06 pm |Reply

  13. Good site. Thanks!

    Comment by fruits of the spirit — April 9, 2008 @ 2:07 pm |Reply


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